great timing
So you are working along....have a couple tabs open....composing emails here and there.....gathering data...using all the "robustness" that is Lotus Notes....and you get the error above.
God forbid you have more then one or two tabs open without Lotus Notes having to shit all over itself. So the end user ends up losing HOURS worth of work only to recompile all of his emails again.
I told him not to tax the system by having more then one or two tabs open and to fire off his emails as soon as has them compiled.
Needless to say he had a couple choice words for Lotus Notes - all of which I have heard multiple times over.
DO NOT TRY AND MULTI-TASK WITHIN LOTUS NOTES. You will only end up causing yourself more work in the long run.
3,000 pissed off employees every day have to use Lotus Notes here at work......what did we do to deserve this punishment?
Labels: i hate lotus notes, lotus notes must die, lotus notes sucks
posted by ih8lotusnotes | 5:39 AM
23 Comments:
I frequently have upwards of 20 tabs open at once. A former coworker was actually in the habit of never closing any tabs until he hit the limit (I think it's 50). So... if Notes is crashing on you with only a couple windows open, you might want to check to see if there are other issues with the workstation (i.e. not enough RAM, fragmented hard drive, etc.). Out of curiosity, which version are you running? 6.5.2 was buggy, but that's the only QMR I've seen since 6.5 came out that wasn't reasonably stable.
Notes 7 introduced an autosave feature. There is no excuse for losing any work. I also frequently have numerous tabs open, and I have users who open Notes first thing in the morning and work all day without ever closing any tabs. I think I counted over 80 tabs open on one person's computer.
If you're having frequent crashes with Notes, it's not Notes' fault. We're running it on everything from P3's with 128MB RAM to dual Xeon workstations and I only have crashes reported every couple of months.
Who "compiles" email?
Charles - the autosave function sounds like something I could use.
How do I turn that bad boy on?
File-Preferences-User Preferences-Basics
AutoSave every x minutes
The application has to be set to use AutoSave, the R7 mail template is by default
Note: The setting can be applied to all Notes 7 clients via policies
I have been working with Notes for over 13 years and rarely has Notes crash. As Charles said it maybe be how Notes was installed or configured. I have used Outlook before and in comparison, Notes is much more stable then most email system. I have opened as many as 14 tabs and never had it crash. I don't like the design of have all these tabes open, but the new version of Notes that is coming will fix some of the UI issues that I have.
Well, I'll jump on the bandwagon and try to help you out with your Notes issues. I suggest you take a look at the tips on my site. Here is one about Auto-Save
If you've never visited before, I suggest clicking on the Archives on the left, and reading some old tips. Also, make sure to look at my presentation from Lotusphere
I have to say that I have hardly every had Notes crash on me, when it has done I have usually been able to track it down to another application NOT Notes.
Currently I have 16 Tabs open these are from a mixture of servers located in different places. I also will frequently have the Domino developer open at the same time as the Notes client, that too will have 10+ tabs open.
I think you are looking at the wrong application for the cause of your crashes. One thing I have done that has reduced the instances of crashes on my desktop is to use Firefox instead of IE6.
You see the few MS applications that run on your system the better it will be.
It sounds like.... the probeblem should be the user, or the man who installed and configured your software ;-))
I actually work with an uncountable numbers of tab across multiple window instances of notes... 1-2 crash/year, for my mistakes usally
Felix
Anon, have you ever say tried to maybe study some sort of Notes course? Like a CLS? Sounds like you have little to no clue of what you are doing in terms of supporting Notes. Stop bitching and learn something!! And bye the bye, Alan's website is a very good start in getting to grips with what Notes/Domino is about.
clean this up lotus! this one really looks bad. no more zapnotes for me!
if you have such problems, you should check user's configuration. this is absolutely not normal.
I can only echo others here, I always run with 10-20 tabs open in Notes 7 and it doesn't crash.
Amazed people instantly slag an application off without finding out why an issue arises. It's clear that Lotus Notes 7 is a very stable client.
Perhaps its your environment that's crappy and not Lotus Notes?
Sounds like you need training.
And a life.
And no doubt you think Office never crashes - I dont think so!
The client hardly ever crashes on me and I have a 60MB desktop6.NDK file (that I try to keep it at) multiple tabs with Client, Admin and dev clients open and still works fine !
What, and other e-mail clients like Outlook never crash once in a while? Before moving over to the Notes 8 beta I didn't experience one crash in four months of running Notes 7.0.2. Microsoft Word crashes probably 25% of the times I use it. Just 5 minutes ago actually, I read a document, hit File Exit and I told me it wasn't responding.
This is ludicrous. As a Notes developer I've vented as much as anyone about deficiencies in Notes, and deficiencies in IBM. But if this kind of comment is indicative of this site, then you might as well pack up and move on.
I currently run Notes R5 on Windows 98 inside a Virtual PC environment on top of a G4 Mac, connecting via ADSL to Notes servers running on Redhat 7.2 hosted on celerons. I have loads of tabs open and even I don't have these kinds of problems. In other environments I work with Notes 7.0.2 and I don't have the problem there either.
If you genuinely have these kinds of problems, then you are clearly a fucking idiot, and should not be allowed near any computers. Sorry to say that, but there is no other explanation. But after 10 years of working with Notes (warts and all), Notes simply does not crash like that. It is something in your environment that is out of kilter. And it is unprofessional of you to choose to blame Notes for it.
Bernard - your right. What was I thinking? Notes never crashes. I actually photoshopped the error in this post and made it all up.....
Wake up. And thanks for stopping by!
Hmm, well. I've been using, Administering and developing for Lotus Notes since 1991.
I have experinced several crashes in my Notes-client throughout that period of time.
Most of these crashes (in R5, R6, R6.5, R7) was caused by (in order of frequency):
1) MS IE
2) Corrupted BOOKMARK.NSF
3) MS Office ActiveX object not behaving.
4) Corrupted Cache.ndk
5) Corrupted "Other" DB
Our junior IT guy was "installing" Lotus Notes on new computers by copying the lotus\notes folders from one computer to another. He didn't use the actual "install" program for Lotus Notes. Duh. That explained why his user's had crashes. We also had one department with a lot of crashes. They had purchased a 3rd party Lotus Notes application that installed ODBC drivers, dll's and crap with Lotus Notes. I told them to scrap that stuff, or continue crashing. Not my or IBM's problem.
How would IE cause lotus notes to crash?
You can opt to launch URL's in IE. If IE freaks out while loading, it can cause Notes to crash.
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